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    "id": 1283038,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Methu",
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        "legal_name": "Methu John Muhia",
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    "content": "happening in Kyulu in Machakos, how was the money paid. The Senator for Taita Taveta County is here. He was asking how Kshs120 million was paid to a ranch and he was told it was their share of the carbon credit. They traded, but they did not know how much was paid. They were given some blanket figures. When we speak about clarity, you will be surprised today that there is a company running in Siaya County doing carbon credit trading on behalf of the people of Siaya County. However, this is not known by the leadership of Siaya, Nyandarua or the Members of Parliament, particularly in this House. The highest payment was made to Kwale County. The Senator for Kwale County is a Member of my Committee. He does not understand how these companies around Shimba Hills traded on behalf of the people of Kwale County. How was the Kshs15 billion that we got as Kenyans distributed among the communities? When we speak to ensuring that we regulate this space of carbon credit trading, we want to have clarity about what is happening. There is an issue about integrity and transparency. While the Government has a responsibility under Article 69 of protecting communities, they cannot protect the community without a framework and the tools of trade. Since we are not operating in isolation, we then have to align with international commitments. As Sen. Cheruiyot has rightly put it, are we the ones who caused this problem? No. There are other people that have greatly contributed to the global warming that we are facing our country. A total of 186 countries have committed to the Paris Agreement, but then are we getting the rightful share of what we are supposed to get so that we ensure we manage this crisis? No, because we do not have the right framework. The reason why we need this amendment is to ensure that we engage a broader range of stakeholders. As I said, yesterday we saw different stakeholders writing memoranda that they trade here. However, nobody in the Ministry, Government and the local community knows under what law they are operating. Therefore, this is something that will be addressed by this Bill. Another point is that we need to support Kenya’s emission reduction goals. Now that we have placed it at 1.5 per cent, then we have to get a framework of how we will get there. We have to get a legal framework around which then, we shall be able to achieve this particular goal of the reduction of emissions. Finally, since I want to allow my colleagues to contribute, there is something that has been mentioned about, the objects that will come. We really pressed the Cabinet Secretary yesterday when she appeared before our Committee on how communities will benefit from this. This is so that the Government does not become a prohibitor in this market. I also agree with Sen. Cheruiyot because, how these monies will be shared will come in the regulations. I ask my brothers in the Delegated Legislation Committee to rise up on behalf of the communities so that they can benefit as they should in as far as these particular earnings are concerned. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services,Senate."
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