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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, hon. Professor Saitoti has said that in the United States (US), there was an era of McCarthyism when people were haunted from office because they were accused to be communists or Marxists. You do not need to go to the era of McCarthyism in the United States. You only need to go to the era in which the hon. Minister served as a Vice President in this country when there was what I call neo- McCarthyism in Kenya. I myself was haunted out of the university being accused of being a Marxist. I even lost my brother under those conditions. The late Shaw, then a reserve policeman in this City gave me the details of how that happened and he went with those details to his grave. So, there has been neo- McCarthyism in this country. This august House would like to defend this country from another slide into post neo- McCarthyism which means that we must have an open culture of consultation and respect for public opinion. Where process is complicated as, indeed, the Minister said, then we should recognise that complication and not take firm stances that are not amenable to ocular reason. We must accept that when the National Assembly and the nation are apprehensive, we should think for a moment that we may be wrong."
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