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    "id": 1286268,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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    "content": "There were very minimal points of order. Members listened to each other. If you continue this way, we may reconsider the place of Parliament, so that we operate from here and debate more than argue. Parliament is a place for debating not for arguing. That is what I like about the session this afternoon. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I appreciate the comments from all our colleagues. I request that you file your amendments tomorrow, if you strongly feel you should. Otherwise, let us give this proposal a chance. We have worked with the system of managing our health facilities for the last six years as has been. This is a radical and different thinking. I plead that even if, for example, you have a particular amendment that does not see the light of day, let us still give this proposal an opportunity. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I heard Sen. Osotsi speak on the issue of governance, saying that he was unsure of how these funds were going to be administered. That can be between the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) and the village accounts committees, like what we have in schools. When a Member of Parliament (MP) takes a cheque of, say, Kshs1.5 million to build classrooms, the village committee is more thorough than any Government agency that you can put together, including the Office of the Auditor General (OAG). Villagers and Kenyans are very woke, as young people would put it. They know what the cost of ballast and stones is and how much it costs to put a classroom of this size versus that other. Do not be deceived that by going to the village, members of the public do not understand these things. We have a very sober society coming up and they do oversight better than State agencies. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, much as we have put governance issues from Clauses 26 to 29 that are addressed in this Bill, Members are open to tighten it if they feel it is not tight enough by way of amendment between now and tomorrow, but mechanisms that have been put are fairly sufficient. I pray that we ask this proposed model a chance for it to conclude and we, as representatives of the people, should ensure our people enjoy better services. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services,Senate."
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