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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Oketch Gicheru",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Chairperson, this is one of the Clauses that we had conversations on this Floor and even outside. We have had a number of back and forth with the majority on this particular clause. I have also had an opportunity to have a side conversation with the Senate Majority Whip. One thing I wanted to persuade is that as a House, we must stand for devolution. In the sense that even if you are to vary the membership of this council to the extent that the ministry has got one or two people then the rest are coming from different departments and functions of the county, the ultimate power of that council lies with the ministry. To the extent that reporting, correspondences and any other responsibility of that committee, they are answerable to the Ministry. The moment we do that, we completely plough on devolution, and we take the primary healthcare to the ministry. That is why I strongly believe that this clause should not be part of this Bill and we do away with the--- I would want to hear what the two leaders of the House think. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and the Majority Leader can also chime in on that."
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