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    "id": 1291312,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Thang’wa",
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    "content": "Most monies going to counties are for development and of course recurrent and there will be money that will go to the health facilities. I asked on the Floor of this House about money deducted from employees of a county government for the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) was withdrawn and taken to a private entity. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we are talking about Universal Health Care (UHC) here. The Government is providing the best in NHIF but here you have a governor who wants to get out of NHIF and go to a private entity. On why he would do that, your guess is as good as mine. However, it has been months since I brought that Statement here and the governor has not been summoned. We have not received any response and here I am. That is why we need to form oversight Committees or CPAC or CPAIC that are regional. With that, we can fight for our people collectively. If today I have not received any information one year down the line, what does that tell us and here we are sending money to counties? Most World Bank grants and loans are project based. They do not send money blindly. That is why sometimes you see projects funded by the World Bank are paid on time and are thoroughly done. I would urge whenever the National Treasury is bringing this Bill that the itemized projects to be done by the World Bank be listed so that when they say they are giving Kshs150 million for NARIGP, I should be told what is going to happen to enable us to follow up with our governors. As I conclude, Kiambu County owes contractors and other over Kshs5 billion as pending bills. I use this opportunity because I am working on an amendment of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act that will help cure the issue of pending bills. We have pending bills because when governors are passing their budgets, they over project their own-source revenues. In Financial Year 2022/2023, Kiambu County said they would collect Kshs3 billion, but they collected Kshs2.1billion. There was a deficit yet they had already ear- marked and committed the Kshs3 billion. Can you imagine as we speak today, the current budget for Kiambu County 2023/2024 on own-source revenue is projected at Kshs7 billion? If you could not collect Kshs3 billion, how are you going to collect Kshs7 billion? They are going to over commit this Kshs7 billion in projects and then they shall collect Kshs3 billion. Another deficit of Kshs4 billion shall occur plus the previous Kshs5 billion that will make almost Kshs10 billion. Maybe the incoming governors in 2027 shall not work, but just pay pending bills. That is why I want to bring this amendment to the House so that when you are over projecting your own-source revenue you can only do so to a certain percentage of the previous collection. If Kiambu County had collected Kshs2 billion, you can only over-project maybe 20 per cent higher that will be Kshs2 billion plus Kshs200 million. This way we shall make sure that counties are transparent. If at all you collect more, you can always do a supplementary budget. As a Senate this is the time, we stand with each other. The same way you are a Senator representing interest of your counties, hear me out because my county is burning and we are losing money in Kiambu County. Assist me to make sure that the people of"
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