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    "id": 131062,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/131062/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Mwiria",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 190,
        "legal_name": "Valerian Kilemi Mwiria",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, the issue of Agenda Four has also come up. I do agree with Mr. Ethuro and others who have spoken that, we need to address issues about inequality in this c country and that we must address historical injustices. However, sometimes, we look at it on the surface. If you really looked at inequality, why do you say that people from Central Province are much more advantaged than those from North Eastern Province or Rift Valley Province? We have refused to look at the real problem of inequality in this country. It is really a class issue. The people who own property and land in this country come from across the communities in this country. The people who have been allocated the Agricultural Development Corporation (ADC) farms and those who grabbed most of the land come from across all communities. If we do not address that but just look at it in terms of provinces and go cheating our people that the reason North Eastern Province or Rift Valley Province is disadvantaged is because some communities in this country have a larger share of the national cake, then we are not being honest, because that is not the problem. I think our main problem is one of socio-economic differences and class. We need to address that and not continue seeing it as a tribal matter. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, the issue of the Truth, Justice and Reconciliation Commission (TJRC) has come up. I really hope that the TJRC will make a difference in this country in terms of uniting us. However, there are many questions that have been asked about the leadership that is genuine. Whether we like it or not one way of showing the way is that when your credibility is questioned and people say they think that you cannot be the best representative or chairperson of an organization, I think if you are as good as some people make you think, then you should set an example by saying: “Fine, because of national interest and my integrity, I am willing to step aside so that somebody else can take this responsibility.” This is because whether we like it or not it is high time we came out clearly. There is no Kenyan superman or a Kenyan we can trust to do a certain job. There are many Kenyans, especially younger people who need an opportunity to also contribute to the healing in this country. So, I do agree with Mr. Affey that there can never be one person who is acceptable by everyone with regard to the chairing of the TJRC, but maybe we should also ask questions, as Members of Parliament about the role we played in terms of ensuring that those nominated to that Commission were people that were acceptable nationally. This is because the Chairperson was recruited out of a list that was passed by this Parliament. So, there are questions about the whole selection process; in terms of how it was quickly done without enough"
}