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"speaker_name": "Prof. Kithure Kindiki",
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"content": "so that you can carry those communities on board so that, even after putting the beacons, they continue existing together. What is unique to us in Kenya and is not permissible is introducing crime in the discussion around boundaries. We have in various spaces increasingly introduced violence and crime in discussions around boundaries. For us, as security managers and law enforcers, we urge our fellow countrymen to remove violence and crime from discussions around boundaries and let the other civilian discussions around boundaries continue. We, in the Ministry of Interior and National Administration, will facilitate those discussions as quickly as possible but within the law and peacefully. Even as we move towards the review of boundaries, we have mapped out that this is a red flag for us in the security sector. We will not allow any Kenyan— of whatever rank, religion, colour or creed—to jeopardize national security while pretending that they are defending a boundary. Let them use legal, peaceful and lawful methods to defend boundaries. Hon. Speaker, I know I am going to get into a lot of trouble with many of my friends because we will part ways with so many people including my dear friends when crime visits the things we do on an everyday basis. We must resolve our grievances peacefully, amicably, and within the law. It does not matter how long it takes. It is possible. However, inciting communities against each other, inciting a community to attack another and take their property or inciting the offended community to take up arms to retaliate and revenge is not acceptable. No country is ever built on such foundation. To answer the Member, yes, there are issues around boundaries. But the upsurge of crime is resulting from people who want to benefit from genuine grievances to perpetuate crime for whatever reasons, maybe commercial, political et cetera . We will escalate law enforcement as boundary disputes escalate. I have also been asked to comment about Kamukunji although it was a different matter about command. Yes, I received a letter from the Member of Parliament for Kamukunji. I have requested the Inspector-General of Police to address that anomaly. I promise the Member that the matter will be resolved as soon as possible. On the last two questions, the Member for Laikipia North asked about measures we are taking to mop up small arms and light weapons. There are three things. First, is voluntary surrender of arms. We have made some progress on this. I must commend Samburu County for leading voluntary surrender of arms among the counties we are encouraging the voluntary surrender of firearms programme. At an appropriate time in the weeks and months ahead, we will also be engaging some places in involuntary mopping up of weapons or forceful disarmament. Therefore, any Kenyan who has in their custody an illegal firearm is hereby asked to surrender that firearm to the local chief, village elder, any leader or any Government office. We will come for it at some point if they do not. We are just making other interventions to make sure that we recover all that we want to recover when that time comes. Finally, we are also zeroing down on the enablers, benefactors, beneficiaries, abettors, and assessors of poor people to afford an AK-47 gun, accessories, and an endless supply of ammunition, but have no food. I am afraid that we will have to prosecute a number of people including high-ranking people in Kenyan society. No amount of noise, politicisation, ethinicisation or any other manoeuvre will distract us from securing Kenya from people whose business and trade are in the blood of the people of Kenya. They buy expensive firearms and give them to poor boys who have never been to school and have no food and have nothing to go and kill people and collect property, which property much of it goes into the hands of merchants. I want to report, therefore, that we have made a lot of progress in profiling the major catalysts, beneficiaries, benefactors, financiers, spiritual leaders and political godfathers of crime. They perpetuate banditry and other crimes by stockpiling small arms and light weapons The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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