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    "id": 1334643,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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    "content": "evidence that will be adduced by the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) and his witnesses, and the defence Dr Margaret Nyakang’o will mount in court. I agree with Hon. Chepkonga. It is one thing to read the Constitution and claim independence of the office, excluding us from reading Chapter Six on leadership and integrity. What you are being invited by Leader of the Minority Party to pronounce yourself on is not for you to do it. He is inviting you to a political duel. It is okay for it to be out there in press conferences and other organised media. To attempt to use this chamber to prosecute a matter that is in court, as the Leader of the Minority Party duly noted, will be sub judice . I implore on him to heed your advice. Even those who seek to defend Dr Margaret may be prejudicing her case in court. It is safer to leave that matter to the courts. Let them make a determination based on evidence that will be adduced in court. We do not know the evidence that the office of the DPP has. There is nothing in our Constitution and laws that say either the Auditor-General or holder of an independent office like the Controller of Budget is immune to prosecution. If we say that a holder of a constitutional office like the Leader of the Majority Party, independent or constitutional commission office is immune to prosecution, that will be the height of impunity. When we say we shall deal with impunity, the Leader of the Minority Party who is a Member of the House must be seen at the forefront on the fight against graft. It is not only graft when it touches on public funds or office but also those who are in private sector engage in it. As leaders, we must be at the forefront to speak against graft and impunity in this country. It is not lost on me that the same people today who purport to be defending Dr Margaret Nyakang’o are the same ones who were vilifying her yesterday, when she spoke about State capture. She was forced in the wee hours of the last regime to withdraw Ksh15 billion from the Exchequer. We thank God because we are not speaking of her being forced by anybody in the Government today to make withdrawals from the Exchequer or approve payments that she thinks should not be approved. We are talking about her impropriety before she came into office as the Controller of Budget. Nothing touches her conduct in office."
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