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    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": ". Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I thank Hon. King’ara for bringing this Bill. It is very good and timely but also very straightforward. I will be very brief. The issue of public land is a very significant one for this country. As populations grow and the fight for resources heightens, people tend to look at public land. This is because many people cannot afford land because it is very expensive. When they find land idle for a while, most people invade it, lay claim to it, and take control. It is important that you have a registration process for public land. Above that, I wish there was also a clear way of demarcating it. Perhaps, you can provide for that; once the title is given, there should be a clear demarcation. When I got in as a Member of Parliament, I discovered a school where the public had donated land. It is actually the biggest public school in my constituency in Kasgunga Ward, called Usare. When I got in, and very graciously, my predecessor had done a lot of work at that school, but it was being sold. There was a court order to sell the public school. Why? Because there was no title to the land. It was never handed over. Therefore, people take advantage, even those who have donated. Sometimes, it is a grandfather who donated the land. When the children come later and do not have resources, or some of them are careless or have misused resources they inherited, they want to take over and sell what their grandparents gave to the community. However, I want to agree with Hon. Temporary Speaker, that the way it is worded excludes the kind of land that would be of utmost significance to some of us who come from areas where pieces of land are grabbed the most. In the case of the school I am talking about, we had to re-buy the land even after we knew that land was already purchased, but there were no records. Even after re-purchasing the land, a portion of it was stolen. I am a Member of Parliament. That pits you against the people who are trying to grab the land. We should propose an amendment to include instances where the community donates land, not only when it is allocated by the National Land Commission (NLC). The other issue of concern arising from what I have just said is the issue of the depository of titles and the sanctity of title deeds. I want to emphasise the depository of titles. The reason I say that is because I helped several schools get titles. Once they got the titles, some would ask me who they should give them to. Some schools do not have administration blocks. Therefore, they have nowhere to deposit those titles. Who is the depository of titles? We can amend the Bill to ensure that we protect those titles. I also want to comment on the issue that the Seconder talked about on sectional properties. It is a new and emerging issue that stems from greed. Someone can buy an apartment The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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