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    "id": 1337414,
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    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": ". Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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    "content": "on the second floor of a building. However, I was notified of a case where somebody went and sold the land. The challenge is that if you have sold the land because you have the main title deed, what happens to those people? We may need to amend a different legislative framework so that when people own titles to their premises, there should be a shared title deed to the ground around it that may deal with that issue. One issue of concern to me is that of shared natural resources. I am happy that I have seen it in another Bill coming from the Senate. You can see that we are talking a lot about land. Two weeks ago, I was dealing with fishermen from Litare and Kiumba beaches. They have been fighting over the water, and sometimes people die. One major issue is that there is no longer enough water. When I say that, people might think that it is crazy, but there are not enough water spaces for people to fish. Therefore, they end up fighting because of the different types of fishing. You can demarcate land and state that your title extends from one point to another. How can we demarcate water? I know that, that is a totally different legislative framework. That is why I am happy that I saw a Bill from the Senate on shared natural resources. We must look at how to deal with those issues. Of course, multiple issues arose from my meeting with the fishermen, but that is one of the issues we must consider to reduce the conflict. Finally, one other concern is public beaches. For instance, the closest beach to where my family comes from is called Mikuna Beach on Rusinga Island. It has been lying idle for a long time because the Government introduced hippopotamuses, which threatened people and sent them away. Recently, when developers came to do aquaculture, there was a push and pull between them and the communities because of that idle land. The fishermen thought that they could use it. That issue would not arise if Mikuna Beach had a title. That takes us to another legal framework that we must look into on the issue of riparian land and the right to beaches. It is still not very clear what is private land and what is public land. Otherwise, this is a very good piece of legislation. I urge our Speaker to talk to the Speaker of the Senate because my Bills have suffered the same fate twice. We pass Bills from the Senate. Just yesterday, we passed the Primary Healthcare Bill and others, but most of our Bills go to the Senate and die. This issue must be sorted out in this Parliament so that we do not suffer the fate that we suffered in previous Parliaments. Otherwise, congratulations. It is a good job. I support."
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