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    "speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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    "content": " Hon. Deputy Chairman, I am corrected and a good beneficiary of the great wisdom of the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research. Being a former educationist, he knows better. The point I am making is that, in as much as we can consult outside of the House, there are times when the business being transacted in the House requires us to consult within. At the Committee of the whole House, you can consult within. You have a lot of freedom. You can consult behind the Hon. Speaker. There are Chambers all over, and even across the aisles. It is allowed. The point I was making, Hon. Temporary Chairman is this: You remember we had a meeting as leaders just a short while back and the presence of all Members when critical business of the House is being transacted was mentioned. That is why I was complimenting these Members who have stood through to ensure the House has Quorum as we transact the Committee of the whole House. Even today, at the start of the House, the bell had to be rung, and the substantive Hon. Speaker was seated here. The Members were eating. Members were consulting over food. Let me say it differently. In as much as we can consult over a meal or tea, we can consult all over the precincts of Parliament. There are times when the business of Parliament requires any consultation we are engaged in to be undertaken here. Even today, when we began transacting the Committee of the whole House, I found the corridors full. The Hon. Speaker just left the room, and you came in. Members who should be transacting business here are all over the corridor bothering the Secretary of the Hon. Speaker, wanting to see the Speaker. The Hon. Speaker left here so that you can transact business, and the Hon. Speaker needs to be following the debate. But Members are interrupting him instead of undertaking debate here."
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