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    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah",
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    "content": "Secondly, I am certain that Hon. T.J. must have been in the House when this debate began yesterday. He would have raised the matter in plenary during the Second Reading. Yet, he did not. Before you took the Chair, I had also mentioned earlier that Hon. T.J. Kajwang' is not even a member of the Committee. Therefore, he can only base his argument on what he is reading in the Committee Report, which we considered yesterday, just as we all are. That Report was tabled and signed by the Chairperson of the Committee in line with our own Standing Orders. I have keenly listened to Hon. T.J. taking offence with the Clerk having listed those amendments as they appear in the Order Paper, but the Office of the Clerk does not propose amendments. It is Members who take their signed amendments to the Office. The amendments in the Order Paper are properly signed by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health. As Hon. T.J. Kajwang' says, it is true that the amendments proposed by the Committee in their Report are not in the text as they are in the Order Paper. Hon. T.J., yourself, Hon. Temporary Chairman, and I have been here long enough to know that when a Committee report is tabled in the House, it ceases being a report of that Committee and becomes the property of the House. It is up to the House to agree or disagree with the Report. Lastly, I am happy that Hon. Makali is seated here and has amendments. If you look at the text, parts of the amendments that Hon. T.J. Kajwang' is speaking about are in the Order Paper and were proposed by other Members. Nothing in our Standing Orders or the Constitution, as Hon. T.J. Kajwang' wants to make us believe, says the Committee must carry amendments contained in a committee report. Any Member of this House can read that Report, pick an amendment, and propose it during the Committee of the Whole House. That is what able Members of Parliament, like Hon. Makali Mulu and Hon. Anthony Oluoch, have done. They read the Report, found amendments that they agreed with, proposed them, and the Chairperson of the Committee found no need to propose the same amendments since they are before the House. The only thing that remains now is for Hon. Nyikal, a member of that Committee, to support the amendments by Hon. Makali Mulu and Hon. Anthony Oluoch and oppose that of the Chairperson if he does not agree with him. I have heard that Hon. T.J. has not got into the nitty-gritty of the amendments. I want to assure you that the import of all those amendments and the net effect is zero. It is the same. Therefore, Hon. Temporary Chairman, just like the Chair who was ahead of you had ruled, what we had seen was an attempt to filibuster and spend time on non-issues. We know. I said it, and I want to repeat it for the record, that this Bill…"
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