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"content": "In this country and the world at large, the most difficult situation somebody can be in is using religion. Somebody will tell you that if you go to heaven, you will get beautiful wives, wine and so on. That person is brainwashed until you find somebody saying ‘because I am going to heaven tomorrow, I will have beautiful women, wine and nice food, let me kill people.’ These are people who are calling themselves religious. If you see people in the first row in the mosque or church, you find a poor person sitting at the gate of that church. These people coming out of the mosque or church, and a man is begging for a few coins, they will just pass by. However, a drunkard can sit next to that beggar and start asking him what his problem is. That drunkard could be having only Kshs50, but he will share with that poor person, yet the religious one just passed. Madam Temporary Speaker, people are using religion to steal and cheat. If somebody comes there having a problem with the husband, you will find a Sheikh saying ‘leave him, I will marry you.’ I have seen such cases. They will open a religious book and say ‘this part says if this man gives you problems, stay with him there without doing anything, but then after three months, you are free to go.’ That is what is happening. It is time for this Government to act not only against the Shakahola one, but also against those people who preach in churches, telling people I am going to heal you. They bring their brokers from outside there and tell them: “You know, if I ask who has a problem, come and say I am sick and I want you to be healed.” This is predetermined. Then that person comes there limping like he is very sick. I do not know what they do, but you find that person falls down. I do not know what magic they use. Then somebody stands behind holding that person. After a few minutes of shaking, that person says: “I am okay, I am healed”. That is using religion in a very bad way. Madam Temporary Speaker, I am a Muslim, but I do not support fundamentalism. You can see youth today in Lamu are being used. They are not people from Somalia; they are our local children being used. These people are using religion. These children are told our religion says if you kill somebody today who is not a Muslim, you will go to heaven. The people using these children - the young boys and girls - are people who call themselves Sheikhs and Imams, Bishops and Pastors. You have seen what has happened in Britain. There are Catholics against Protestants. Catholics go to churches and after church they parade on the streets that they are Catholics, this is their colour, this is their band. They are fighting the rest. Then protestants also have their own. If you look at where they are born, they are people who are learned. They are British who colonized almost everybody in this country and then they go back and start using religion to kill each other. Sen. Cherarkey said earlier that there is no lab in this country. He is very wrong because there is a modern lab in the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) that was recently launched. If he is not aware, he needs to talk to the person in charge at the DCI, hopefully, he will be told. Finally, out of the recommendations the Committee has given, the most important one and that should be adhered to is the repeat of these kinds of death. Forget about 429, the issue of even one person dying because somebody used religion or brainwashed them that they will go to heaven, do not eat or drink, leave your husband or wife; come and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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