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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana MGH",
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    "content": "been told not to say something. It is better to come and say that there are things you cannot say because of the nature of the information you have. You can request to be heard in private, and the Committees of this House will be willing to understand. We received two letters on the date when Mr. Paul Mackenzie was supposed to appear before the Committee. One letter was from the retired Brigadier John Warioba, Commissioner General of the Kenya Prisons. The other one was from Mr. Wycliffe Makasembo, the lawyer on record for Mr. Paul Mackenzie. Mr. Makasembo requested one month to prepare his client to appear before the Committee. Brigadier Warioba, on the other hand, wrote a letter to tell us that he feels that Mr. Paul Mackezie is a high-risk prisoner, who requires proper security arrangements before he is transported to Nairobi. He asked that he be given more time. Unfortunately, the time given by this House to the Committee had lapsed. We should have examined Mr. Paul Mackenzie's evidence. Madam Temporary Speaker, I have elaborated in detail on the Committee's efforts to procure the attendance of crucial witnesses and how the efforts were obstructed at every turn by Prof. Kindiki Kithure, the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration, and Hon. Susan Nakhumicha the Cabinet Secretary for Health. They are public officers who ought to have facilitated the Committee's execution of its mandate. If anything, the Committee could have received the evidence in camera if it was an issue. The Committee received evidence from the National Intelligence Service (NIS) in camera. We also received the Director of Criminal Investigation (DCI) and the Office of the Directorate of Public Prosecutions (ODPP). We received this evidence in camera. We do not understand why the two Cabinet Secretaries were not willing to facilitate the Committee to execute their duty. We condemn the actions of the two Cabinet Secretaries and ask them to realize that our work is for the people and the benefit of Kenyans. Kenyans should know why we did not investigate some of those witnesses. During a meeting with the DCI on 13th October, he invited the Committee to visit the National Forensic Laboratory at the DCI Headquarters. Some Members went to see the laboratory. Despite being a modern state-of-the-art laboratory, it faces numerous challenges. For example, there are 12 laboratories that are within the big laboratory itself. Out of the 12 laboratories, only eight are functional at the Directorate of Criminal Investigation (DCI). This is because some of the machines are outdated and the service contracts have expired. Madam Temporary Speaker, of the eight that are functional, some of them lack the reagents to do the work that they are supposed to do. They also lack funding for procurement. Although there are very many technical and highly trained staff in the DCI, you will find that even when they collect the samples to bring to the headquarters for testing and the normal collection of evidence, they do not have the specialised motor vehicle to carry those samples from Shakahola all the way. You will find that the departments of Chemistry and Biology are not functional. These departments are supposed to be the main departments that would have helped in Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) identification. Therefore, people have been asking why it"
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