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    "speaker_name": "Dagoretti North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Beatrice Elachi",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support. I know we shall have to really look at very many clauses and try to clean the Bill so that all of us can appreciate it. It will help to change the way we think, how we look at things and how we appreciate our country. In the history of Kenya, we killed our country the day we decided that civil servants can do business with the Ministries they work in. That was the day the culture of corruption got entrenched in our country and our minds and how we do things daily. At the same time, we have to say that it is fair if one is doing clean business and can pay their revenues. Clean business means what the late President Kibaki entrenched in this country. During his presidency, any eligible Kenyan would do a tender. One did not need to know who is who in an office. When starting the tendering process today, you are told you must give something for it to go to the next stage. We have inculcated a behaviour that will endanger even the future of our children. As I support, we must agree that conflict of interest starts from this House because we do all these things in the Departmental Committees. More importantly, we must accept that the directors know. That is why I have always said that we must agree to go back to performance contracting, if we want to clean up all this mess. There should be a job group in the civil service for which people compete to be on contracts. Those in this cadre can do two terms and leave after their contract. It is very tough to bring in this law and say that we clean and yet, we have someone who has worked in an institution for 30 to 35 years. We have to start cleaning at a very different level. I agree with the Member for Ugenya Constituency that it is time we asked ourselves whether we want a better country where everyone can get something and move or a country where we shall be counting numbers and saying: ‘These three have made billions of shillings!’ How we talk about billions of shillings surprises people in Kenya and East Africa. It is like a normal thing in Kenya nowadays. However, the most important thing is that this Bill is not The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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