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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, all of them having been received on 9th October bear the stamp of 9th. The date of the stamp is not the date of the authorship. That is what I am trying to say. Is IFMIS the final proof of payment? It is the official system of the Government of Kenya for public finance management. We do not have any other. If payments are indicated there, as having been made, then there is no other way to confirm whether those payments were made because they will not be keyed there as having been made if they have not been made. While on this matter, there is no challenge even from the Governor herself as to the authenticity of this IFMIS. Who is the head of the county treasury? It is the CECM Finance or any other person designated under the PFM Act as the accounting officer. Sometimes, it is the chief officer who is so designated. However, the issue here is that people at certain levels only act through subordinates. It is never is an answer to say, it was not me. Mr. Speaker, Sir, if that was the approach, no CEO would ever be responsible for anything. They would always say, it was someone else. Why are they in that office, if they can only take its glory, power and prestige, but no responsibility for whatever goes wrong there? On that question, there is Section 39 of the County Governments Act. It says members of the county executive committee who include the Governor and the CECMs are individually and collectively accountable to the Governor in the exercise of their powers and performance of their duties and responsibilities. So, if these persons are individually and collectively answerable to the governor, it means that the governor superintends them. Can she throw them under the bus when things go terribly wrong, like they have gone now, but if things go well, she takes the credit? Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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