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    "id": 1366853,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Elias Mutuma",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. To answer the question by Senator for Nairobi City County, I would like to refer the Senator to Pages 177 and 178 of the Assembly’s volume two, to demonstrate a very simple fact. You will find extracts of WhatsApp messages adduced as evidence in support of the utterances and the sequence of those messages. When you look at the message appearing at Page 177, it shows the time is 21.16 and the next message is 22.16. On the next page, you will find that time going back to 2017 and 2018. This confirms then that it cannot be the same day when these messages were posted. Our simple answer to the question is; the Governor was responding to a viral video that was sent in this group, showing the Deputy Governor chanting inciting songs against her. It is in that response that she said, “I will not be intimidated by these childish youths who have been mobilised by the DG”. The Governor then pointed to that video that had been sent. Therefore, you could get a lot of distortion on dates because these messages keep on being copied and pasted. It is very difficult to tell whether this is from March or August because they do not follow a particular sequence. Secondly, when you are in a WhatsApp group and you are responding to a specific message, you could actually press to refer to a specific message that was sent days"
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