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    "id": 1369324,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1369324/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
    "speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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        "legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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    "content": "doctrine. I am just saying this for guidance. When we adjourn the House to discuss matters of national importance, we talk as if we are playing politics. We are talking about Kenyans. I cannot say with clarity which side of the political divide that the people I saw in Machakos voted for. I only saw Kenyans. Can we address issues and, as the House of Representatives, come up with solutions? Were those houses built without planning approvals? Is it possible that if there are planning approvals, they were given without title deeds? Were those services being supplied there without approval? If there were title deeds and approvals, who were involved, and to what extent are they culpable or liable for the damage caused to those Kenyans? Is it true that some of those houses were built on loans? If so, is it possible that banks gave loans without proper documentation? If they did due diligence, did the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development confirm that they duly owned those title deeds? If so, how do we deal with them regarding the money they still owe those financial institutions? Let us talk about those areas. Remember that the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development is digitizing title deeds. Could it be a solution that we are talking about? Let us discuss issues. Next is Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi."
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