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    "speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. Let me also thank Hon. Robert Mbui for bringing this matter for debate on the Floor of the House. The people of Kenya can get to know a few issues here and there about that issue. Let me also take cue from the Leader of the Majority Party: Members contributing to the debate must declare their interest pursuant to Standing Order 90. Let me declare my interest that this is my area of practice. I have trained and practised for over 40 years, so I know the genesis of the problem at hand here. Secondly, let me also declare that the Member for Machakos County, who spoke earlier, and I sit on the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives with, we are privy to some documentation that the EAPC laid before the Committee. So, I want to avoid the politics and the specifics. I will deal with the wider concept at hand. I must sincerely thank Hon. Mbui, once again, for bringing this matter to the fore. This is not the first time, neither is it the second time and it is unlikely to be the last time. The genesis of this problem dates back to 1990, 1991 and 1992, when there was the infamous reward for the people when we were transiting from a one-party State to a multiparty State. By then, the Kenya African National Union (KANU) felt threatened in their strongholds by the leadership of this country. I will give you an honest example that shocked me as a valuer then. At that time, the National Bank gave out free loans to KANU kingpins. Among the lands they loaned to, were the Jogoo Road and Outering Road roundabouts. I am just laying the genesis of where the rain started beating us. Someone processed title deeds and superimposed them on the Jogoo Road and Outering Road roundabouts. Once they got the loans, the records at the registrar of companies were destroyed immediately. Five years down the line, when the loans were not serviced, we were contracted to do a valuation for auction purposes. With the skills we had learned at the university, we found ourselves at the Jogoo Road roundabout. Money had been misused already. Everybody in the KANU Government, the honchos and the wingers, took advantage. They grabbed any land that was perceived to be unoccupied. That mirrors what is happening to the land that is the subject matter here. How the East African Portland Cement Company acquired the land, either through acquisition, donation or public guarantee, is now immaterial. They acquired a big chunk of land which they were to use to mine raw materials for cement making. As my colleagues have indicated here, once they exhausted the mine, they were to return the land to the rightful owners, whom I do not know. This land had long been occupied by the settlers. You and I know how the settlers got the land. They owned land and title deeds to the land. As you are aware, title deed ownership is exclusive. Not two people can own a title."
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