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    "id": 1371796,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
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        "legal_name": "Cherarkey K Samson",
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    "content": "When you are fined by the Committee, it must be shown that the Kshs2 million or 5 Kshs million that you paid before the Committee through our Clerk, you own each and every cent. This will fight corruption where it matters. My only concern is on Clause 3. We should also propose - I do not know what we can tinker with this. If we have an urgency, like the case of Embakasi gas explosion that happened, should we wait for seven days for the witness to appear? If there is something that is urgent like Corona Virus Disease (COVID) 19 Pandemic, should we wait for seven days for that person? Why do we not make a provision when it comes to the Third Reading, where we create an exception that when an emergency happens in a country, for example, floods and other things that cannot be intervened, the witness should appear as soon as possible? Where you are Madam Temporary Speaker, you can order a House to go to recess and invite that witness to appear immediately if there is a matter that becomes urgent. I propose that we also create our own Parliamentary Police Unit, just like Anti Stock Theft Police Unit (ATPU). It deals with cattle rustlers and bandits. We must in equal measure deal with these bandits of the law. I am therefore proposing, and it is good that the Commissioner is here in the House. My eyes have seen one of the Senior Counsels, Sen. Omogeni, who is here. We can under the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) and in partnership with the National Police Service Commission (NPSC), create a Parliamentary Police Unit (PPU), such that the Clerk and the Speaker can direct our own police unit to go and frog-match those people who are violating the Constitution. We will create a Committee to oversee. I will propose at that point to be chairperson of that committee because it is like working in Traffic Police Department in National Police Service (NPS). What we are proposing is that let us have a police unit that is only domiciled within the Parliament of the Republic of Kenya. The other day, I saw the Cabinet Secretary (CS) form a police unit to fight against coffee or was it rice theft and some other things. These are issues that we can discuss so that our Clerk and the Speaker can give directions to such officers to go and frog-match. The third point I want to make which has been indicated as a civil debt, we need to ensure - I agree with Senator for Nairobi City as one of powerful Vice-Chairperson of County Public Accounts, we have had ragging with some of the witnesses who come and refuse to talk, do not want to produce documents and become condescending. I remember a governor, whom I do not want to name because he comes from my side of coalition, made condescending remarks against our esteemed God-fearing Chairman, and it was embarrassing. To make the matter worse, he is a former Member of this House. Sometimes we find it cantankerous and unfortunate that people come to committees and do not want to produce documents, do not want to be civil and patient. There is one Governor, and I hope the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) Secretary General (SG) is listening. I do not want to name him, but he wanted us to quickly summarize the appearance because he was flying to India. Those are some of the challenges that we are facing as a Committee. I am happy that the Senate Minority Leader, Sen. Madzayo, who is also a retired Judge, should be"
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