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    "id": 1371870,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Dullo",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13125,
        "legal_name": "Dullo Fatuma Adan",
        "slug": "dullo-fatuma-adan"
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if I may give an example of my county. I had written to Governor of Isiolo County to give me certain documents to carry out my oversight role, but unfortunately, he refused. If you allow me, I can play the clip where he went to the public and said he can only be audited by the public who have elected him and nobody else. He went ahead and stopped civil societies that were having a meeting with me. This is because I realized there was a double allocation of budget from the county government and Non- Governmental Organizations (NGOs). I wanted to get that information and tell them the reason why Senators are carrying out oversight. The County Secretary and the Governor called the civil societies not to appear for my meeting. I have a clip where he said even if he is called by Senate 500 times, he will choose when to and not to appear. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, can we have an amendment or a regulation where we should be given powers as individual Senators within the counties to get documents and evidences to be able to carry out our oversight role because that is very critical? We inspect projects that are within our counties. Sometimes, we would want to talk to the contractors who maybe told not to provide the document. We might go to those offices and ask for documents, especially in county governments where governors are hostile to Senators. We do not get those documents. I appeal to Sen. Osotsi, the House or any Member who is ready to move that amendment. Even if it does not come to the Bill because it touches both Houses, we can have a regulation that allows Senators to be able to carry out their mandate. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I will finalize by saying that I will support the proposal by Sen. Mungatana as far as the fine is concerned. For county government, Kshs2 million is nothing. Let them feel the pinch. We need to dehorn these governors who think they are gods in those counties. I believe if we carry out this particular amendment, we will have respect as a House. This is because it looks like Senators are not respected in the counties."
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