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    "id": 137356,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/137356/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Mwiria",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology",
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        "legal_name": "Valerian Kilemi Mwiria",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I would like to respond to the issues that hon. Khalwale has raised. First of all, I want to thank him for asking his question in good faith. He has realized that there were political dimensions of the problem that had nothing to do with the students. I really congratulate him for that. That is the spirit. The documents talks about consultations that took place and the involvement of politicians. Let me also say that some students came and consulted me as the Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology. I told the students that any time they go on strike, it messes them up. They are the ones who suffer. I told the students leader, Mr. Kimaru, that the best thing is to try and talk more and more but, a week after he left my office, there were problems. But we should encourage consultations as long as they are possible. We should talk to our young people and our staff members. But there are politicians who were bent on causing political trouble. Those meetings that we are being told about are referred to by the Senate and those problems took place. It is very unfortunate that there were professors who also took part in that. If people who are supposed to be intellectuals result to violence and cannot negotiate their problems, that is a serious problem. Ideally, we should be---"
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