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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Ogola",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute to the NADCO Report. I would like to start by saying that the fear of Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga lives with Kenyans. His fear is real, to the extent that when Hon. Raila, as a Kenyan statesman shows interest in a post in the African Union (AU), a number of us think they are looking for a job for him. I only want to share with the people who have such fears that Hon. Raila Odinga will be here for a long time, maybe even longer than a few who have such fears. Madam Temporary Speaker, I support the dialogue process and the Report that we are discussing here. Alternative dispute resolution methods are also catered for in the Constitution. It is only statesmen who agree to dialogue. One such statesman is Hon. Raila Odinga, who was part of the initiation of the national dialogue process. He has done it before and he is doing it and we appreciate him for that. As I support this NADCO Report, I would like to make reference to the issue of entrenching funds that were extensively discussed in the Report. The Senate Oversight Fund was discussed and approved together with others. Since we are a Senate that primarily looks after and protects the interests of the counties, the issue of the Ward Development Fund must be addressed. Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) who are in charge of the wards must also have a fund they are responsible for, which is specified and not lumped together as County Funds. I emphasize that the issue of Ward Development Fund must be looked into. The issue of the two-thirds gender rule is critical. The Supreme Court had pronounced itself on this. Therefore, it is important that we put it into practice. The issue of two-thirds gender rule is not about women. When women sit on the decision-making table, they bring in ideas that are important for everybody. Even as nominees here, we are not only talking for women, but for Kenyans in general. Therefore, the issue of two-thirds gender rule must be practiced. There is also a proposal to have offices of the Leader of Opposition and Prime Minister. This addresses the winner-takes-it-all issue that has perturbed Kenyans all along. Kenya is for all of us. We have a role in leadership, decision-making, and taking Kenya forward. There is no justice without justice done to the people who lost their lives. We struggled through the famous maandamano, as referred to by the other side. The issue of demonstrations is in the Constitution. Demonstrating is a right for Kenyans. In the process of the maandamanos, lives were lost. What are we doing about the lives lost? There must be justice and compensation for the loss of lives and property. As I support this National Dialogue Committee (NADCO) Report, we should reflect on the dialogue issue as leaders. This must be looked at in terms of something other than the national picture. We must initiate dialogue wherever we are. Also, people"
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