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    "id": 1380165,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Olekina",
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        "legal_name": "Ledama Olekina",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I will try to be very first. Five minutes is a very short time. So, I will time myself as well. I rise to support this Report. I can find my clock here or I am wasting my time? This is a Report that demonstrated a lack of fiscal discipline in our county governments and our governance in this country. It is about time that we try to have a balance to ensure that whatever we commit ourselves to, we fulfil. There is something we call a fiducial duty; a legal obligation for all accounting officers to ensure that whenever they deduct money from employees, they remit it. When we were investigating this matter as to why these retirements schemes are owed so much money, it shocked me. I think sometimes when we draft legislation, we also must be very careful. If you keenly look at this Report, and I will try to be very fast, the money owed to all these pension funds is about Kshs85 billion. However, what is Kshs85 billion? Kshs56 billion of the Kshs85 billion is penalties and interest. In essence, the principal amount owed is only around Kshs23 billion. Do you, honestly, want to tell us that, as a House, we cannot sit and decide to force these county governments, including the national Government, to ensure that the first charge of account is the Kshs23 billion in the next financial year?"
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