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    "id": 1382327,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1382327/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kiharu, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Ndindi Nyoro",
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    "content": "When we talk of debt, we look at several things. For instance, Japan has the highest debt to GDP ratio in the world of over 250 per cent, but we have to look at the cost. In Kenya, the cost of borrowing domestically... Recently, we had an infrastructure bond of over 17 per cent which is tax free. For the last 10 years, Japan has had bonds with negative yield; meaning a negative interest rate. The more reason we cannot compare ourselves to them. The ramifications of Japan over-borrowing have led to inflation which, in turn, has caused their real GDP to remain constant for the last 30 years. Kenya is a gross borrower and, therefore, does not lend to anyone. Some of those big economies report gross borrowing but they also.... My time is up."
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