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    "id": 1399234,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kavindu Muthama",
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        "legal_name": "Agnes Kavindu Muthama",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. M. Kajwang’ should reverse it back to the 1960s instead of 1992, because the people who made the boundaries in 1992 did not conduct proper public participation. I suggest that even the people who will be now working on this Bill should have public participation broadly because there are those elders in every county who know the boundaries of the counties where they were, even from the colonial days. Like in Machakos County, we are talking of Machakos being from the Museum Hill here in Nairobi. However, we were moved, until now Machakos County is having issues with almost every county that surrounds us. I am in talks with my county government, especially the County Executive Committee Member (CECM) for Lands in Machakos County, and the surveyors to know exactly where the boundaries of Machakos were. The sponsor of this Bill, Sen. M. Kajwang’, should meet with the people of Machakos County, and hear their cries and grievances because, in Machakos, we have been pushed so much, even Nairobi City County has pushed us so much, and it is all about revenue. We are not going to push anyone out of Machakos County, but we want also to collect revenue the way we should be collecting it. Sen. Wambua has made it very clear that we should also know where Malili and Konza City stand. Is it towards Machakos, Makueni or Kajiado counties? Those boundaries are made clear where they are, so that there will not be more fights even after this Bill is passed into law. So, Sen. M. Kajwang, before you move very far with this Bill, make sure you visit the counties that have issues, meet with the governors, the Senators, and the elders who know where their boundaries from the colonial days were to date. That will help. Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will support this Bill with amendments."
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