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    "id": 1399562,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Thang’wa",
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    "content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to also weigh in on The Conflict of Interest Bill, 2023 (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023). As I do that, it is also good to say that in today's Order Paper, I see my Bill, the Public Holidays (Amendment) Bill, (Senate Bills No.31 of 2023), is scheduled to be debated. I take this opportunity to say that, maybe we can discuss it after the holidays because tomorrow is Good Friday. We have a Saturday and Sunday in between and again Monday is a holiday. I would want Kenyans to take these four holidays and see what they can do with it. Then, from there, we will get to know whether the Public Holidays (Amendment) Bill, (Senate Bills No.31 of 2023) is still viable. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the issue of conflict of interest, as much as I would not want to say whether I am in support of this or not or probably bring amendments or not, in our culture, society and country, conflict of interest is immeasurable. We should have come up with a Bill that has indicators that will mention them by name and words. That, if you do this, you will have broken the law. If we leave it like that, just everybody needs to declare a conflict of interest on a certain matter, what will you call these examples that I want to give you? When we talk about bias in your work as a public officer, personal relationship, self-dealing, preferential treatment to somebody as a friend, that is conflict of interest. In this House, we have conducted a few impeachment hearings. I want to give you an example of the impeachment of the Governor of Meru County, whereby a deputy governor was a witness, and he wanted his governor to be impeached. Would you call that conflict of interest because he was the next beneficiary if that impeachment"
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