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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Thang’wa",
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    "content": "occurred? He is the person who could have gotten that seat. Does that mean that is conflict of interest or he was exercising his mandate to make sure that Meru County get rid of the governor as per the allegations that were there then? In the impeachment of the Deputy Governor of Kisii County that we just did the other day, we saw a father and a son giving their accusation and testimonies on the Floor of this House against one another. One was a friend of the Deputy Governor, and the other one was conned by the said person as per the allegations that were there. Would you say that is also conflict of interest? This Bill, as I said, should come out clearer. If you look at the definitions, what is a private interest? It says- “It means a personal benefit, privilege, exemption or advantage that a public officer or a person affiliated to a public officer may gain from the office that the public officer holds, and which may influence the judgment of a public officer in the exercise of the public duty but does not include interest in decision or a matter to that.” Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I believe a deputy governor, who would benefit from such a seat when a governor is removed from office, from this definition, that will be conflict of interest. When you talk about conflict of interest, sometimes it is unrealistic if we do not give it proper indicators. The Members of Parliament from the National Assembly issue bursaries through the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF). They are the Members of Parliament and the ones who issue these bursaries, and they still benefit from that politically. Would you not call that conflict of interest? When it comes to an MP issuing bursaries to the people and he is only doing that within the period that he is an MP. That means somebody in that ward or that constituency who would want to vie for that seat, will be somehow disadvantaged in the future, because this MP is issuing bursaries yet you are not giving anything at that particular time. The Bill should be clearer. We shall be moving some amendment. If you look at Section 31A (1), if I could read- “This Section determines the responsible Commission for a public officer for the purposes of this Act. “ The Commission that will be mandated to oversight certain entities, agents and other Government officers and officials. It goes ahead, in Section 31A (2) to say- “The Committee of the National Assembly responsible for the ethics of members is the responsible commission for– (a) The Cabinet. (b) Members of the National Assembly. (c) The Director of Public Prosecution. (d) The Secretary to the Cabinet. (e) Members of the Judicial Service Commission. (f) Members of Commissions and independent offices specified under Chapter 15 of the Constitution; and"
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