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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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    "content": "recovered by people who are owed money by county governments and, therefore, development will be hindered. As they say, you make hay while the sun shines. This is an opportune time to look at Governor Sakaja and ask him what he plans to do with Kshs107billion and move to Governor Wamatangi, our good friend, and ask him what he plans with this Kshs5 billion, so that we can have onward, up to Governor Wesley Rotich of Elgeiyo- Marakwet, who only owes his suppliers Kshs2.7 million. It is good to have this conversation with our various county governments because part of the essence of leadership, colleagues, is the ability to feel the pain of other’s empathy. Just imagine yourself if you are a simple supplier. I used to do business with counties before I became a Senator. I long stopped after that. I know the pain of a supplier chasing paperwork from one department to the other, then finally you are told, there is something called an I.B., which finally has sent so many people to their graves because they have been waiting. They were told that it was just in the I.B. Auctioneers do not give a care or a hoot in the world about I.Bs. All they know and care for is whether you have their money or not. I said this a long time ago, Sen. Ledama. Nobody in their right senses still does business with county governments in this country. Unless the governor is your personal friend or even your father, you cannot try because you will be auctioned. It is on that account that we must lead the Senate of the Republic of Kenya to decide on this Motion. Sen. Ledama, I will amend this Motion of yours further later on, because we must be stringent and tough on our county governments. The Senate must resolve to demand of each county that, first of all, classify your debts. Of course, we know that the Kshs107 billion is not money or expenditure that Governor Sakaja incurred, for example. However, we must question what he has incurred since he came into office. I am sure the same can be said of all our county governments, so that you divide your debts into two. Tell us what you intend to do with the previous debts that you found, and the debts that you have personally incurred under your administration. This is so that we make a decision and tell our county governments not to incur or roll out any works before they first pay off those suppliers that continue to struggle. That is why I am a bit disappointed. You remember last week, from that Chair, the Speaker gave directions that the Controller of Budget (CoB) was to appear before this House on Wednesday of this week. Unfortunately, the Controller of Budget did not appear. I hope that matter is not left to slide. Immediately we resume on the 16th April, 2024, I hope that on the 17th April, 2024 the Controller of Budget shall appear before the Senate because she is an important cog in this challenge. She is an enabler of this challenge. Therefore, with those very many remarks, because this is a conversation that we will have for a long time--- I have requested Sen. Ledama that we be permitted to amend it, put more stringent measures and resolutions. You know, a resolution of the House is not idle talk. Once the House resolves something, county governments will be forced to act, so that we clear all these pending bills. We verify and nobody will have to part with a"
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