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    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, that is improper. First of all, it is out of order and this matter is not procedural. If there was a change, it should have been raised at the time of Notices of Motions. The worst bit is that I was informed it was approved. The Deputy Speaker told me that she had approved it, but other considerations came later. What considerations are coming after it was approved? They should have come before. You have said that this matter will be discussed on Wednesday when the Cabinet Secretary for Health will appear here. This will help to inform her what Kenyans want. My Motion of Adjournment was to discuss the health workers’ strike. What we would have said would have helped the Cabinet Secretary while answering. Why has it been found necessary to keep it after approval? You have said that it is before the Public Petitions Committee. It is still more useful because Members of that Committee would have been informed by what Members of Parliament think. That would have been part of their consideration. This is a matter of national crisis and importance. The whole country is asking: “Where is Parliament?” This would have given us an opportunity to state what they think. We are stuck with the issue of calling interns students without thinking of a way out. The Government does not have to always pay interns. There is a way this can be done. In 2000, we only had eight hospitals taking students, and then we opened up. The Ministry of Health is not the only one that is employing medical interns. Private hospitals like the Aga Khan University Hospital (AKUH), AIC Kijabe Hospital, Tenwek Hospital and Karen Hospital are employing and paying them. Why do we not want this to be heard by the country? I want you to allow it and let the Members say that they do not want to discuss it. I am still asking for the Motion of Adjournment. If we do not get 20 Members in support as required, I will raise my hands up because that is the procedure. I cannot be gagged. This week, as I was raising it, the Speaker literally cut me off and suggested that I should bring the matter today; which I did. Why am I being gagged?"
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