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    "id": 1402614,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
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        "legal_name": "Cherarkey K Samson",
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    "content": "HANSARD can bear me witness. However, if it is misunderstood, I withdraw that statement and replace that people--- Mr. Speaker, Sir, why is Sen. Sifuna smiling today? He has been told that Uhuru Park cannot be used for political rallies. I hope he is aware. I replace this by stating that everyone within the rank and file of running of Parliament, including ourselves at the Committee level, should be ready to answer questions. We are asking these questions for the sake of our welfare. While moving this Bill, I want to indicate that our business is lawmaking. Let us play this role as we give Members of Parliament an opportunity to do their job. In the proposed amendment in this Bill, the Senator of Kiambu had an impeachment procedure, Bill. As we wait for the Bill to come, this proposed amendment will increase the threshold for removing a Member of the County Executive Committee. Mr. Speaker, Sir, being the governor emeritus of Kilifi County, Sen. Mandago and Sen. Ali Roba having also been governors, understand what it means to have stability and prediction regarding the County Executive Committee Members (CECMs). This Bill is just rationalizing with the national legislation. If you indicate ‘one- third,’ it means if you have 80 members in an Assembly, 10 members could sign a motion and remove the County Executive Committee. This Bill is rationalized by national legislation. There is a threshold before you impeach or have a vote of no confidence against a Cabinet Secretary. We want to rationalize, so that we can bring stability. In as much as we oversee county governments and other independent institutions, our goal is not to stifle the flourishing and expansion of devolution. We want stability and predictability, so that we can oversee things with ease. The proposals in this Bill do not mean the Members of the County Assembly (MCAs) will always have the power to summon the CECMs', Chief Officers, and directors of various departments within the county Government structure to appear before them. We are putting in place a game with rules. We are putting a stopgap, so that the law is not open to abuse. Imagine if only a third of 365 Members of the National Assembly were required to pass a vote of no confidence against a Cabinet Secretary, how many Cabinet Secretaries would have gone home? Are there Cabinet Secretaries who are supposed to go home? This will be an abuse. Section 40 of Act No.17 of 2012, which is proposed to be amended, talks about removing members of the executive committee. The grounds have been laid. Section 40(2) says that a member of the county assembly, supported by at least one-third of all the members of the county assembly, may propose a motion requiring the governor to dismiss a county executive committee member on any of the following grounds— (a) gross violation of the Constitution or any other law; (b) incompetence; (c) abuse of office; (d) gross misconduct, or (e) if convicted of an offense punishable by imprisonment for at least six months. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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