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    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have heard Hon. Kaluma. In response, I just wanted to clarify certain things. When you make a statement and leave some things hanging, people might think that there is a problem with the Bill. The Bill has previously been before this House, twice. This is the third time. When I first brought it on the Floor of this House, there was not even a single opposing voice. It was passed overwhelmingly because even some Members of this House are affected by assisted reproduction. There many Members who do not have children, including myself. Having been declared Dani, I am not going to have one. There are Members here who still want to have children through assisted reproduction. One of them, Hon. Shakeel Shabbir, who has brought amendments, has had a child through assisted reproduction. That is why it passed overwhelmingly. For Members who remember when Hon. Joyce Lay was here, she burst out crying when she was seconding this Bill. However, when it went to the Senate, there was a Member who had a Bill that had nothing to do with assisted reproduction, but something with surrogacy, they saw the Bill as competition and they killed it. Unfortunately, theirs did not even reach here. So, the Bill did not die because it was unpopular. It was very popular that the Senate wanted theirs to be the one that reached here first. When it came here for the second time in the last Parliament, again, it had overwhelming support. However, somebody misguided the church by telling them that there were wrong things in the Bill. We even met with the members of the church. Hon. Jennifer Shamalla, on behalf of the church, brought amendments to the Bill, but it lapsed. The Bill that is brought here is one with amendments from the church. That aside, I am normally very willing and able to accommodate Members. The Departmental Committee on Health has brought several amendments, which I think are excellent. I am not just flattering the Committee. They have brought excellent amendments, including deleting the clause that is offensive to Hon. Kaluma. They have proposed a deletion. I am an experienced Member of this House, especially at this stage. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know that. You are also one of the Members who is experienced in this stage. Most members usually run because they find this complex. I can tell you that we usually employ winnowing when you have almost 15 to 20 Members bringing amendments. In this instance, it is just the Committee. As the Mover, I agree with almost everything that the Committee is proposing."
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