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    "speaker_name": "Kitui Central, WDM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu",
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    "content": " Okay. Thank you. As I was saying, in this row, the gadgets have a problem and something should be done. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you and I have been in this House for the last 12 years. During this time, we have seen a lot of sibling rivalry, where the Senate and National Assembly have been doing things unexpected of them. Parliament has two Chambers; the Senate and National Assembly. The law is very clear that the Senate was created to address the interests of counties, while the National Assembly is supposed to take care of national level interests. As most Members have said, we have seen a situation where the Senate has been dealing with national Government issues which the National Assembly should oversee. To me, this is not a major problem but a situation where the Senate takes the National Assembly to court and yet, we all know that PSC does Parliament’s budget. So, it pays the lawyers representing the National Assembly in court and, at the same time, pays the lawyers defending the Senate and vice versa . Such confusion should not be allowed to continue. That is why I thank Hon. Chepkong’a for bringing this Bill. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you and I have served in the Budget and Appropriations Committee, and we are aware of the matter regarding the origin of money Bills. The law is very clear that money Bills can only originate in this Chamber and not the other one. We have cases where Senators have originated money Bills and, as a result, we kill them at this level. It might appear like we are killing them for the sake of doing so but, it is a constitutional requirement that they cannot originate them. That is why the idea of having joint sponsorship of Bills has become very innovative. It is something we are pushing so that we can cushion the Senate against originating money Bills. Another important matter is the issue of superiority. Who is senior? Kenyans are not expecting to know who is senior, but to see both Chambers working and generating Bills and Motions which will help this country move to the next level. There are instances where some The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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