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    "speaker_name": "The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration",
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    "content": "(Hon. (Prof.) Kithure Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am discovering that I am former many things. Sometimes I am the former Deputy Speaker, and other times the former Senate Majority Leader. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the matter raised by the distinguished Senator for Nandi County is true. What we have been doing in the past, which we are now correcting is, we have been addressing border disputes in a piecemeal and silo way. For example, as we are aware, the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), for example, has a role in consistency and ward boundaries. As we are aware also, the Constitution of Kenya provides in Article 188 that boundaries between counties will be determined by a boundaries commission, which in my interpretation is not the IEBC. I know at least one case, which I brought earlier on in my earlier life as a legal practitioner, challenging that issue. It was around electoral disputes where two counties were involved, and the court said that the IEBC deals only with electoral and ward boundaries. However, inter-county boundaries is the role of the commission envisaged in Article 188, which is not the IEBC. I know Senator emeritus Mutula Kilonzo Jr. of Makueni County brought a Bill at some point to have this commission established. I do not know how that matter has progressed. Therefore, going forward, we want to make sure that we deal with boundary disputes comprehensively. Since boundaries are emotive and can lead to breach of public order, we have determined through our county security teams across the country and us in Nairobi, that we are going to address each of the cases involved in a multi-agency manner and security-led because of the sensitivity of issues, but also bringing on board all other actors, like the NLC, NCIC, and others including IEBC, but led by our security formations and security management to ensure that we comprehensively deal with those issues. Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me submit as follows as I finish on this matter. If we removed incitement to violence and unnecessarily ethnicizing and politicizing these issues, we will resolve all the 28 inter-county boundaries in this country in a very short period of time. We will be moving in that direction. I could perhaps be put to task that after three months I brief the House and the country where we have started on that programme. I submit."
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