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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
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        "legal_name": "Cherarkey K Samson",
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    "content": "departmental committees and declare Bills originating from the Senate as Money Bills. Therefore, they should not originate from the Senate. We have lost many Bills and amendment Bills. I made an amendment on the issues of diaspora. The National Assembly is telling me that it is not a function of the Senate. A county like Busia borders Uganda, so does it mean it cannot be affected by international law? A county like Mombasa and Turkana border other countries. Also, counties like Kajiado, does it mean these counties cannot be affected by international laws? We need to be careful with Clause 12(3). Members will be struggling hard to develop a Bill, which you will approve. However, when it goes to the National Assembly, it is declared as a Money Bill. Clause 14(2) says- \"The Speakers of both Houses shall appoint a mediation committee consisting of equal numbers of Members of each House.\" This is straightforward. This is like the communication you read today on the appointment of Members to the Mediation Committee. This is a procedure that the Constitution has provided. Clause 16(1) says as follows- \"A committee of one House may hold a joint sitting with the corresponding committee of the other House to deliberate on matters of mutual interest and concern.\" My worry is on Clause 16(4). It says- \"The National Assembly and the Senate shall, upon commencement of this Act, prescribe under their respective Standing Orders joint rules for the conduct of the sittings under subsection (1).\" Clause 16(3)(a) says- \"The Houses may, on a motion, prescribe rules for the conduct of a proposed joint sitting by committees of the Houses.\" Clause 17 says- “At any Joint Sitting of the Houses, the Standing Orders of the National Assembly shall apply with such modifications and variations as the Speaker of the National Assembly may consider necessary or appropriate.” Clause 17(2) says- \"At any Joint Sitting of the Houses, the Standing Orders of the National Assembly shall apply with such modifications and variations as the Speaker of the National Assembly may consider necessary or appropriate.\" We can have a Joint Sitting of Parliament for the State of the Nation Address. This law proposes that the Standing Order that shall apply in that Sitting is that of the National Assembly, which is dangerous. This is joint Sitting. I have used an example of the Parliament of South Africa. Whenever they have a joint sitting, they use joint rules. What is the purpose of Clause 17? To demean and make us look like Members of the County Assembly (MCAs), which we should not allow. I am not saying the MCAs are less. However, the standard of the Senate is high. Clause 17(3) says-"
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