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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
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        "legal_name": "Cherarkey K Samson",
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    "content": "Thirdly, I have also seen a proposal. I wish Sen. Methu would listen to this keenly because he is the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Land Environment and Natural Resources. They have proposed that if you are a chairperson, you should not sit in the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) and County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee (CPIC). Is he saying that he is ready to forego the chairmanship? I can see he is consulting the Senate Majority Leader. The essence is to ensure that there is efficiency and effectiveness of a committee. It is not that the chairpersons of various Committees do not have the capacity to sit in those Committees. It is because of the nature of CPIC and CPAC; we sit daily from Monday to Friday. You are aware that we have a backlog of audit queries of many years. We have not updated the Financial Year 2023/2024. So, I know the Senate Majority and the Minority Leaders have consulted extensively on this. Also, on the use of subcommittees, I want to inform this House that in the County Public Accounts Committee, we have agreed to come up with the latest and clear the backlog of audit queries in counties. As we go for this working recess, we shall form the subcommittees. Sen. Osotsi will agree with me on this. Finally, so that I allow colleagues to also make their contributions, is on the dormant Members of Committees. The Senate Majority and Minority Leaders need to guide us on how to handle this issue. I agree with the ruling on the Member of Parliament (MP) for Ugenya Constituency, hon. David Ochieng’, in the last Parliament. At that time, the Nation Supper Alliance (NASA) wanted to de-whip him. The then Speaker, Hon. Justin Muturi, the current Attorney General, ruled that every MP, either a Senator or Member of the National Assembly must at least be in one Committee. I know Sen. Osotsi was in that session. I know that Sen. Methu will support this. With this insight, we should propose that if you are a Member of CPIC or CPAC, you should only be on one Committee. You should not be in any other Committee, so that you can channel your energies where they should be. Finally, on implementation, I agree that Committees should follow up on the resolutions. There is always a matrix on how they can be implemented. In the last session, and at the beginning of this session, we wanted to have an Implementation Committee to follow on recommendations. We have been consulting. It should not be CPIC, CPAC, or the Standing Committee on Agriculture to follow up on resolutions. We need to have the Implementation Committee. I agree that on this issue of Implementation Committee, we must agree as a House to allow these resolutions to be done by individual Committees. I do not know about the reporting mechanism. I know you Chair this Committee; there is need to look at the reporting mechanisms. For example, if CPAC, where the Governor of Kakamega County appeared last week, recommends the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) follow up on a matter, how do we ensure that EACC has implemented the directions of the Committee? Those are issues that I want to throw to the Members to agree on. How do we ensure there is a reporting mechanism? How can the Committee know that our The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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