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    "id": 1439698,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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    "content": "should be given certain benefits. But when we put interns at the same level as people who have been employed as workers, we are going to exploit Kenyans using a law that we are passing in this House. If we do that, we will have a lot of labour issues. So, let me say in this Parliament that let interns be interns and they should not be used to do a supervisor’s job. Let us not call someone an intern teacher and give him a full load and there is no one who is supervising him or her. That is a full-time teacher who should be paid a salary of a full-time teacher. As a country, if we cannot do that, then let us not call them interns because they are doing the job of a full-time employee. So, while I support this law, we need to re-look at it. I believe when Hon. Naisula Lesuuda went to Kenya Broadcasting Corporation, she went there as an intern. She did not go there to do a full-time job for someone. She was helped to grow and grew to be the lady that we now know. This is because she was an intern and she was helped to grow through the steps, but she was not given the full load. She was properly supervised, trained and had her hand held until she got to the level that she is. I know at what level an intern should be an intern and when that intern should graduate to be a full-time worker. So, let us spare the young people. Hon. Rachael Nyamai was an intern. When you are given a job at Kenyatta University as a graduate assistant, you cannot do the job of a professor. She was a graduate assistant who used to carry books, wipe tables, ensure lecture notes are done, go to the lecture room and listen to the professor because she was a graduate assistant - an intern. She did a proper internship programme and she graduated to be what she is. But what are the people we call interns doing? They are not being trained, but being used to work. So, let us look at this policy carefully so that we do the right thing for this country. Let us not burn out our young people by giving them the full load of work and yet, they are not supposed to be given. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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