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    "id": 1439741,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1439741/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "in the organisation? Medical intern doctors are part of any working hospital, where they are the first on-call. Medical officers are second on call, and consultants are third on call. A structured institution cannot function without interns. The situation differs when people are working supernumerary hours and others tagging along. We need to have a structure. There are attempts to do that under Clause 2 of the Bill, where the role of the supervisor and mentor has been stated. That is important. What is their role? Are they part of the structure of the organisation's workforce and are given responsibility? From my experience as an intern, one weekend, I worked from Friday morning up to Sunday evening with very little sleep and no meals. I took care of several wards at the same time, and you cannot call that supernumerary. As indicated, during the strike, the interns were asking for Ksh206,000 because they were working, not supernumerary. I am happy that it has been taken care of here. When we have interns working in the industry, how does it relate to the labour laws? What are they entitled to? For example, the Junior secondary school teachers were there and were called interns, but those are qualified teachers who have Teachers Service Commission (TSC) registration. Were they subject to the labour laws? Now that we are dismissing them, what is protecting them? These are the areas we must look into and, unless we have this law in place, there will be a great danger of exploitation. I beg my colleagues to pass it, even with amendments. This is for the Public Service, but it must also give guidelines. We may need another law to take care of internships in the private sector."
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