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    "id": 1439929,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1439929/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kinangop, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kwenya Thuku",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 13380,
        "legal_name": "Zachary Kwenya Thuku",
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    "content": "Shipyards Limited. In as far as the two metals are concerned, they are consolidated, melted and have billets that are under the custody of the two public entities. Then, they should be auctioned in public as opposed to giving special licences. This is being left in the hands of a Cabinet Secretary who will decide whom to issue licences. We may be forming cartels that will be responsible for vandalising our transformers. This is a challenge we have been having every year. I had a conversation with an officer who works for REREC and he brought this issue to my attention. We represent people and we know the kind of losses that this country is running into because of this illegal trade whereby we license vandals. I oppose this amendment. In fact, I am going to bring amendments to delete any form of licensing of scrap metal dealers in as far as, copper is concerned. We do not produce the same and therefore exporting it is a question we need to answer as a House. Let us leave this to the two public entities mentioned in this Bill to deal with the consolidation of the same and maybe sell it in public auctions."
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