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    "id": 1442244,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1442244/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Mohamed",
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    "content": " Hon. Speaker. We are now in the Plenary of the House and not in the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. The decision on the Bill will be made on the Floor of this House, not in the Committee. Where Hon. Kamket comes from, when you collect cattle, you share with everyone, but this is now a different scenario on the Floor of the House and not dealing with cattle. Having said that, when you are interrupted like this, you lose your thought process. Going back to what I was saying about this Bill, the Committee, in its wisdom, has proposed certain changes. That is a step in the right direction, but it is not enough. This is because there are other things that we need to deal with by bringing amendments or shooting down the Bill in its entirety. Let us be sensitive to the people of Kenya because it is the ordinary person who is paying for what we are processing here, not just us. We are going to make life difficult. For example, we passed the Finance Act, 2023/2024 last year. How much money have we collected using it? We did not reach our targets. That is proof that higher taxation does not necessarily yield higher revenues. On the other hand, lower taxation yields higher revenues. If we make the taxation process easy and simple, everyone will want to pay, so we will collect money. However, when we highly tax people, they will look for ways to evade or not pay, which is the norm. It is known all over the world, and it is not rocket science. Let us…"
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