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"speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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"content": "The problem in this country is that people love proposing half solutions. That is what we are being told; that it is not enough. For example, it is not just enough to tell us that a certain community has this percentage of jobs in public service. Make recommendations. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are willing to come and pass a resolution of the House. For example, if it is established that the community that I come from has more than an equal share of opportunities in the various cadres and levels of Government, let us say that until such a time that others get an opportunity equitably, we do not give a chance to those from my community. Unfortunately, after listening and reading the report from NCIC, you find that it is so basic. It is like the person who designed it just wanted to appease people with little facts here and there. For example, that Kikuyus and Luos have this percentage. That is not enough. Break it down; work like a serious institution. Tell us how many Chief Executive Officer (CEOs) exist in public service and their distribution. Tell us how many senior level managers and ordinary clerks exist. We could be talking about a particular community that has a certain share, but they are all clerks and drivers. It is not the same. We need a more detailed study, so that you lead us, as a House, into making this conversation. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am trying to rush because I know time is not on our side. Governance on our value systems featured prominently in this conversation. We must put it either by law or by design. What is it that you do as a public official when certain things are said about you? How is it that in certain countries the system is so advanced that as a public official, even when you are just accused of having an extra marital affair, forget about stealing public resources, you are challenged. You are told Mr. ‘X’, ‘Y’ and ‘Z’, if you cannot be faithful even to their partner, you cannot be faithful to the country. That their character has been found wanting. On such occasions, people are asked to step aside. They do the honourable thing and say, “I no longer enjoy the trust of the people. Allow me to pursue other things.” This is on personal matters. I am not talking about public issues. The problem with us is that even when we have been challenged on public issues, we still want to stick around and die. We all know of a famous quote where somebody once said that he would rather die than resign. Mr. Speaker, Sir, on debt, I have a certain level of reprieve as a person, but it still does not help me. As I said, these young people that are speaking do not care. I voted against the debt question on the two occasions that it appeared before this House in the last term. The first time it was to move it to Kshs6 trillion and eventually when we moved it to Kshs10 trillion. However, that does not help. It is history. You can point fingers and say who moved or did this, but it does not matter at this point. The thing we are being told first is that when Kenyans look keenly, they are trying to locate Kshs10 trillion in the country and they cannot see it. So, they are asking if we are sure that we owe Kshs10 trillion. I have made public confessions. Those that served with us in the Standing Committee of Budget and Finance in the last term know that when we asked for Kenya's debt register, it was brought to us on an Excel sheet; no records beyond that. We The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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