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    "id": 1443161,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Joe Nyutu",
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    "content": "This is frustrating because if I catch you stealing some bananas from my shamba, I should report you to the police station and then you defend your case. It is only the burden of proof that should be laid on me. However, NHIF is said that they cannot take a medical facility that is placing a fraudulent claim to court. They have to rely on another investigative institution. These are the things that have frustrated Kenyans. That is why we find ourselves where we are today. The other thing is waste of public funds. I have been asking myself, what happened to the Volkswagen Passat that was introduced by former President Uhuru Kenyatta when he was a Cabinet Secretary for Finance and decided that those were the vehicles to be used by the public officers? How did we get back to V8 and Prados for public officers? We must go back to living by what we tell Kenyans. Let us see the Cabinet Secretaries in the Volkswagen Passat as was done at that time, in order for us to save on public funds. The other day I was listening to the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Kuria, and he was saying that he was very frustrated and very concerned. He went to Mombasa and found some staff that he did not need had travelled from Nairobi to Mombasa to receive him. When he asked why, he was told that somebody had not had an opportunity to get per diem for quite some time and that is why they had been sent there. Is that what we all care about? That we see to it that some staffers get per diem even when we do not need their services? These are things that we need to look into and make corrections where we need to. Many colleagues here have talked about the Chief Administrative Secretaries (CASs). I know that we do not have any one of them serving, but there are rumors that there are plans to reinstate them. Do we need CASs? What can they do? What do we need them for? What are they supposed to do that the Principal Secretaries (PSs) cannot do? These are some of the things that we need to forget completely. There should not be anything like that because it has been determined as an illegal position, so that we save on public funds. Many people have mentioned the Office of the First Lady, Second Lady, Prime Cabinet Secretary and his spouse. I am happy that His Excellency the President has pronounced himself on the closure of these offices. I say this because in Kiswahili they say, y a Mungu ni mengi na hayajulikani, knowing very well that I can also be a President tomorrow and my wife will be a First Lady. Nevertheless, I do not want my wife, even if I become President, to have an office funded by the Exchequer because we need to save on expenditure. I am happy that the President has since dealt with that matter and pronounced himself. We may need to discuss on whether we need a Prime Cabinet Secretary and an office for this particular position. Recently, after the floods, there were profiled demolitions. They only happened in low-income areas. This was under the guise of clearing riparian land. If you go to places like Lavington, you will even see some river courses being interfered with for somebody to create room to erect buildings next to the river and not just on riparian land. There was no demolition happening there, while we were demolishing the settlement for the poor. This is what has caused dissatisfaction. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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