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    "id": 1443954,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "budget for flowers; there will be a budget for somebody here mentioned, fuel cards of hundreds of thousands. As we look introspectively, we need to sweep the house called the National Treasury; we need to drain that swamp. We need to bring new people into that National Treasury. In the finance department, we need new ideas. We need fresh thinking about that National Treasury. When people refuse to change, then change must change them. What the young people have shown us is that they have capacity to ask questions and think outside the box. These are the people that we need in that National Treasury. People who will stand and tell us, you do not need 20 security people walking with you. What are you afraid of? We need to rationalize everything. This can be done only by somebody who is from outside; somebody who will look inside that National Treasury with a clean and fresh eye; a young person who would say it does not make sense to do this and that. It did not need people to go and riot for these points to be understood. We need fresh people to go inside there. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have no doubt that Professor Njuguna Ndung’u must go. The Head of the National Treasury must also go. The Head of Finance must go and the Director of Budget must go. These are the people who interacted with these ridiculous figures, including Kshs803 million for cars for three offices for a whole year, and then they bring them to Members of Parliament to crucify them here. Something needs to be done. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as we drain the swamp and the changes that need to be done, we also need to ask the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC) to look into the National Treasury. Over five or six years, you will continuously find a budget line of water and tarmac roads in counties such as Tana River County with nothing. This is because we do not have people in that National Treasury who are involved in the budget- making process. As we drain this swamp, we need to have a clear indication of where these employees of the National Treasury come from. You will be shocked that if the NCIC is to give you the figures, many people will be coming from certain areas. It is those certain areas that are given the bulk of the cake of this country. We have to answer these questions that are being raised in the National Treasury because it is the biggest culprit in this whole thing. It is the one that was going to burn this country because they are bringing wrong figures, putting wrong priorities and then telling us to go and borrow and that, there is no other way. Most of the times, when Members of Parliament interact with this, they have faith in those people who are advising them because they are experts in the National Treasury. However, when you look at the kind of advice and start studying those figures, you realise that we have a very big problem in that National Treasury. The National Treasury has been a big letdown. There were even denying counties money in the division of revenue. The National Treasury has a problem and before we resolve this problem, we will never solve the problems of this country. Mr. Speaker, Sir, all the senior officials in that National Treasury are as guilty as everybody who does not wish this country well. I pray that one of the recommendations should be to sweep that National Treasury clean. New people should come in to look at The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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