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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "our processes and deal with these matters that have been raised by our young people with an open mind. People should be told the truth; that we cannot make budgets like we did in 1980s in 2020s. Things have to change. I think this liberation must be domiciled in the National Treasury. All the questions that are being asked have to do with money and the National Treasury is very guilty. They have kept quiet because they are guilty. They are the ones who have held all the secrets of where our debts are. It must be cleaned. Even if we do all these other changes such as changing the Cabinet Secretaries or appoint multi-sector committees, if the National Treasury is not changed, they will still come back with the same advice to the President next year and this problem will not go away. I laud the young people for fixing their eye and focusing on the questions of money to define the third liberation. My appeal is that they should not go to the extent of being blamed again for destruction of property and the killings that come with the resistance and everything. They should focus. The changes must happen in the National Treasury and the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK). I know they have security of tenure, but we make these laws; we can make them again. The Governor of CBK, his Deputy and all the Directors need to be drained. The Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury and his deputies all need to go. We need new people who are dealing with things with new eyes. If we do not fix the National Treasury, this third liberation will have failed. We will have let down our young people who are in our houses who are asking the same question of what we can do to clean this National Treasury. We need a fresh start. I would be one of those people who would be so happy to see changes happening in that National Treasury. You cannot have people staying in the same Ministry for 20 years. What do we expect? They will bring us the same budget and thinking that they had in 1990 and 1980. They will come with figures and a 40-page document, which you cannot look at within one week and make very good suggestions. You will just be told that your road or bridge is budgeted for and, therefore, support that document. That is what people do. Unfortunately, people take the blame while the National Treasury are the ones who know what is happening. We need to focus. I hope the people will make suggestions. As this Senate summarizes and present our thinking, the question of the National Treasury should be central. This is because these are the people who have been letting us down. We need to drain the swamp at the National Treasury. This is the whole issue around the demonstrations and the questions our young people are asking. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support that Motion. Thank you."
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