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    "id": 1446314,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Wambua",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13199,
        "legal_name": "Enoch Kiio Wambua",
        "slug": "enoch-kiio-wambua"
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    "content": "“(3) An application for registration shall be made to the Board in the prescribed form and shall be accompanied by the prescribed fee.” The Senator for Meru - not the Speaker now but the Senator for Meru--- We have another Speaker. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale talked of a prescribed form and a prescribed fee, but he is leaving that to the board to determine. There is a danger there. Later on, in the Bill - and this Bill should begin to speak to itself – he is suggesting that if a boda boda is registered in Kitui, then it can operate in Kakamega. That is what he is saying and it is a good thing. However, the prescribed form for the registration of the boda boda in Kitui is essentially and materially different from the form that is prescribed in Kakamega. Even the fee the board in Kitui has set and prescribed is essentially and materially different from the prescribed fee in Kakamega. How do we navigate that? How do we navigate that to create uniformity in the prescribed form and fee? My proposal would be, when we get to the amendments, why can we not have a schedule here and prescribe the registration form and fee, so that we do not have different counties prescribing different fees for the operators. In that case, the principle that what I paid in Kitui County is the same amount of money that I will pay in Kakamega County will hold, both for registration and certification. That way, we will create better harmony. That is carried through a number of clauses, from Clause 8 to 9. There is also need for clarity on Clause 9 (ii). It begins from Clause 9 (i), which lays the basis for Clause 9 (ii). It says that a person who owns or operates a motorcycle for commercial purposes shall register with the savings and cooperative societies. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I know we have Savings and Credit Co-operative (SACCOs) for matatus. I am not sure whether the same spirit that is in the SACCOs for matatus or Passenger Service Vehicle (PSVs) is the same spirit of savings as we know cooperatives to do. The nature of cooperative societies that we have is pulling together resources to grow the society, so that members can go back to that society and get some loans and grow their businesses, or do their savings and at some point, liquidate their savings. I do not know whether that is the nature of SACCOs that you have in mind in this Bill. My understanding of the PSV SACCOs is not necessarily for members to get loans or liquidate their savings at some point, but in most cases, to ensure that there is ease of regulation. If a member of the SACCO is on the wrong, then the others take collective responsibility and push for compliance for every member. That will also need to be clarified. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you may have to guide us at some point on Clause 9 (iii) when you say the boda boda shall not be for purpose of forming a gang or cartel by the riders. That may not be necessary. I do not think there is anybody who forms a cooperative for purposes of being a gang or a member of a cartel."
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