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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "this is Ngong Forest and so it is not available for alienation. However, later on, some important people come and take the land and develop it. We know KFS tricks and what they want to do in Tana River County. We pray that you will desist and resist the temptation to rob the people of their land. Next time, when you want to gazette any land for whatever reason, you have to do public participation and involve the county governments. Let this mentality of old times, when people could do anything in this country like the other people are not shareholders, must change. The people in those departments must change with the times. We changed into the current Constitution. There are a many people who are in senior positions that have not changed with the current Constitution. People are still behaving like we are in the previous Constitution where they could do anything. Nowadays, public participation is, indeed, a critical principle of governance. We urge the KFS to do the same. I want to take this opportunity to also congratulate the nominee for Environment and Natural Resources. I hope the National Assembly will pass him. If he passes, the test of the committee on approval of appointments, I hope he will sit down and look afresh because he is our neighbour. He passes through that area and knows that Bangale and Madogo are not forest, they are towns. We pray that when hon. Duale is approved and gets into the Ministry, he will look into these problems afresh. Yes, let us conserve the environment, but let us also not give carte blanche to Government departments to misuse those powers by allocating lands that they do not need. They deprive people of their natural lands. Mr. Speaker, Sir, with those many remarks, I support this report. However, I also pray that Government departments will be sensitive to people's needs so that they do not misuse the name, “protection of the environment” to deprive people of their natural heritage and richness, which is the land where they occupy. We thank the committee that worked on this report for all these recommendations. We support them. We also want the various departments in Government to be sensitive before they go declaring places as forests, as has happened in Tana River County. I hope the new Cabinet Secretary will find it in himself to listen to the people of Tana River County and change some of those mistakes that were done under previous holders of that office. With those many remarks, I support this report. I thank you."
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