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    "id": 1462386,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1462386/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 170,
        "legal_name": "Bonny Khalwale",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to thank the Senate Majority Leader for ably moving this Amendment Bill. The issue of intergovernmental relations is too important to be left vague the way it is. There is a greater need for us to explicitly provide for it through the kind of legislation that the Senate Majority Leader has just moved. I fully support the reasons he has used to move this Bill. Madam Temporary Speaker, when I look at the Bill specifically, I have very few comments, which to my mind, I think are important. The first one is on Page 153 of the Bill. In Clause 3 (4), the Bill provides that a person shall be qualified for appointment as a chairperson of the agency if such a person holds a master's degree from a university recognized in Kenya. Madam Temporary Speaker, seeing what is going on in other offices vis-a-vis the offices in the elective organs, namely the National Assembly, the Senate, and the Executive, we must apply the principle of what is good for the goose must always be good for the gander. I have seen Cabinet Secretaries serving this country without degrees. Here we are setting this high standard for this chairperson. This chairperson will be reporting to people who are supposed to be either equally or better qualified. Therefore, if we want to use education as a measure to allow people to serve in office, then let us stick to it faithfully to the extent that during the interviews, this person would be forced to utter his testimonials, which will be vetted. In my view, I would like the same to apply to all other offices, including the Cabinet Secretaries. I sit back and wonder, 60 years since the advent of education in Kenya, should we still be permitting people to lecture us on how they have limited or no"
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