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    "id": 1464096,
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    "speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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    "content": "that have been devolved. So, let us make sure that funds follow functions that have been devolved in our country. The second thing that this Bill will take care of is ensuring that projects are completed. I like it now that we have reduced the industrial parks. Even though Samburu wants an industrial park, I would rather we have 18 complete and functional industrial parks in this country as opposed to small incomplete industrial parks across the country. That way, we will get value for money. We should finish a project and have it in use so that we get value for money. The other important thing that we must have a conversation on, as a country, is killing of public facilities. What happened in the health sector with the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF)? We made sure that our public facilities are dead so that Kenyans could go to private facilities. The public funds in the NHIF are utilised in the private hospitals. So, our public facilities continue to die. Our public health is dead. What I hope is – and that is why I was raising the issue of the higher education funding model – that, as a country, we do not kill our public universities as we have done to our public hospitals. If we kill public universities, children will go to private universities and the funding model will channel money to private universities. We have to be serious as a country so that our public institutions work and serve Kenyans. Not everybody can afford private universities. Lastly on this issue, I have heard debates on whether governors should be executives or should be elected. We crossed that bridge and we decided we want them elected. I find that we have a challenge of immediate governors running for the Senate. How do you have a governor who has just left office being elected as a senator? Probably, he or she will chair the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) in the Senate where his or her audited accounts will be considered. How logical will that be? Laws are made. As we implement them, we become progressive so that we see what works and what does not. I will look into that Act and bring amendments to it. If you want to run for Senate, you should at least wait for five or 10 years after your term as governor. This will enable the Senate to look at all your audited accounts. The Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) and the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) can also look at your record to ascertain if you misappropriated the funds of that county, before you find yourself in the Senate auditing yourself as the Chairperson of PAC. This was something that was not thought through when we came up with our Constitution. But, as I have said, as we implement the Act, we should look at what needs to be corrected because we will find many governors running to the Senate to protect themselves. With those very many remarks, I support the Bill."
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