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    "speaker_name": "Emuhaya, ANC",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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    "content": "little bit of the monies that have been accruing and owing to them for the last several months. This is one cadre of people I would like to protect. When the Chairman of this Committee spoke on this earlier on, he seemed to indicate that there is a cut on these monies. I wish he was here to clarify the matter. This is an area that we have to choreograph and amend so that we retain the resources that go to the human resource such as the Community Health Promoters. They are currently doing a lot of work on the ground. If we demotivate them by cutting their budget, we would lose the only bit we are remaining with on the ground. This is because county hospitals do not have drugs let alone facilities and are, therefore, not operating. So, this is the human resource that moves around the villages trying to make sure that the health sector is operational or some form of advice goes to the local mwananchi . I am taking a bit longer on this point to insist that the monies for CHPs needs to be protected. Let us not handle this the way we did with the teachers. During the Supplementary Estimates I, there was a Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) for teachers which had been agreed in court. Unfortunately, the allocation was removed and that is why Kenyan teachers may not report to schools on 26th August 2024. It was not necessary. The issue of teachers aside, we would also be risking by getting the CHPs off work. Where is the Chairman of this Committee? There were two components that were discussed. The first one was human resource and the second one, machines. My proposal to this Bill is that we reduce expenditure on machinery but retain the stipend for the CHPs so that they continue helping our people at the grassroots. The other level that this Bill talks about is the monies that go to the county governments from our other development partners. The Chairman described very well that this is not free money but loans. Hon. Temporary Speaker, did you know that we have been grappling with calculating the real debt that Kenya owes? This is because there are too many borrowings that have been done by county governments which have not been accredited to the national debt. Like Randall Robinson says in his book, The Debt: What America owes to Blacks, we are not very sure about how much our debt is. I am very happy that this Bill brings out clearly the fact that these monies from partners are loans to the Kenyan people. It is a debt which shall be paid by the entire Kenyan population. Lastly, I support the Bill on the issue of royalties and court fines. This is money that should go to the county governments. Unfortunately, it is taken to the Consolidated Fund Services (CFS) and once there, it cannot go down to counties. Hon. Temporary Speaker, because of time, let me allow other Members to speak on this issue. I support."
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