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    "id": 1472045,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1472045/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Wamatinga",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Wahome Wamatinga",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I know it is important to tap into my colleagues' resources and knowledge, but choosing when to tap into that knowledge is equally important. I will approach her after this. If we want to see the advancement of devolution in our counties, it is important that we look at the things that our people complain about. When we had an impeachment debate in this House, the word empowerment fell several times. I heard from both sides that the people prosecuting their cases here try to say this is empowerment, and the other threshold does not meet empowerment. As diverse as this country is, as diverse as our counties are, it would be good to come up with a threshold where we indicate whether giving a cup, a spoon, or a knife is empowerment. I have seen some counties do all manners of things in terms of empowerment. As Senators, I would want us to discuss how we can define the threshold to ensure that Kenyans are not taken for a ride. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support the Statement."
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